February 1st, 2017
What'z-it?
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What zit?
Both questions get to the core of my query.
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What zit?
Both questions get to the core of my query.
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When a human is in their teens they often develop acne, this is simply an aspect of a child transitioning into an adult. Nix has a very small acne problem which speaks to it's age as well as its growth. Below is Nix. It is the second closest moon to the Pluto/Charon barycenter and orbits every 24.9 days. Its about 26 miles in size obviously it's not a sphere. |
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Nix is in an almost 3:2 resonance relationship with Hydra (I know, "almost" only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades and that holds true with resonance, almost isn't good enough).
Nix has multiple impacts (I've counted about 30 there are more) the most interesting of which is the red tholin zit. Nix has an irregular and erratic spin. It's more like a tumble or wobble than a spin. This either suggests it is young or Pluto/Charon are creating a pulsating gravitational wave that constantly perturbs Nix in its orbit. |
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Scientist seem eerily silent about this red impact on Nix almost as if they are afraid to call it an impact.
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When this image was first published scientists were excited and saying things like "Nix is red unlike Hydra, what could this be, is it possible this is an impact, I can't wait to get more data on this." then a deadening silence fell over the scientific community about this red object.
Either everyone simply lost interest or are afraid to commit to the obvious. It's an impact!!! What's so difficult to accept about that fact. it has a crater directly in the center where the tholin covered object hit. The impactor cut out some of the surface material leaving behind three really bright white gouges and just like Mordor there is an ejecta blanket. Seems odd to me that we see ejecta blankets and craters on Nix and at Mordor but main stream science claims they aren't impact sites but we don't see any ejecta at Sputnik Planitia but it is considered an impact site. |
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Go ahead, call me an impact conspiracy theorist "cause if my eyes don't deceive me, there's something going wrong around here".
Since I don't want to be considered a conspiracy nut let me do my best to break this down logically. Where's the ONE place we see dark red gooey tholin being produced in this binary planetary/moon system? |
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We see it on Pluto primarily at Cthulhu Regio and southeast at the iceberg mountain area we call Norgay Montes where there is a deep pit or void in the crustal land ice with missing chunks of Pluto.
It doesn't escape my notice that Nix looks like a chunk of ice that came from Sputnik Planitia's south while Hydra looks like a chunk of ice that came from Charon. I put a few images together to emphasize this point.
On May 6, 2016 NASA said;
The Hydra spectrum is similar to that of Pluto’s largest moon, Charon, which is also dominated by crystalline water ice...
The Hydra spectrum is similar to that of Pluto’s largest moon, Charon, which is also dominated by crystalline water ice...
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Hydra’s deep water bands and high reflectance imply relatively little contamination by darker material that has accumulated on Charon's surface over the past 4 billion years.
Hydra is in a high orbital plane while Nix is in a low orbital plane. Hydra's wavelength pattern is similar to Charon as well as it's reflectance aka albedo. I've already explained my reasons for saying Mordor is an impact site which caused the internal pressure's from tidal flexing to blast chunks off Charon launching them into high orbit also hitting Pluto sending multiple P waves through the planet blasting off chunks at SP creating the deep pits in turn launching them with less kinetic energy into a low orbit. But the zit expands Nix's story. |
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Nix isn't just an ice block that was kicked off Pluto it was also impacted by a second object covered in tholin that was tiny and also launched off Pluto. Both these objects were launched with basically the same kinetic energy as they ended up in the same orbital plane. The problem with Nix's zit is it speaks to the age of this moon it does so in a way that's hard to side step and it says there is no way these moons are 4 billion years old.
How does it say that?
Pluto and Charon are compositionally different.
Charon never produced tholin.
Pluto did produce tholin but it had to enter into an orbit that allowed the Sun to cook the nitrogen, it had to grow to its current size with its compositional elements and it probably needed an atmosphere to develop the global blanket of tholin we see today. All of these parameters had to occur in sequential order and it took many millions of years between these stages.
The Nice model suggest it would have taken 900 million years for Neptune to reach its orbit (3.6 Gyr ago) which then had to spend more time corralling Plutino's into their current 2:3 resonance zone. Robin Canup (Pluto/Charon collision modeler) and I agree that Neptune caused Pluto/Charon to meet but while she thinks Neptune caused them to hit 4Gyr ago, I think Neptune caused them to dance in an eccentric elliptical orbit less than 1Gyr ago (my reasons why).
The Nice model is currently the most favored model by scientists describing how our planets migrated to where they are today.
How does it say that?
Pluto and Charon are compositionally different.
Charon never produced tholin.
Pluto did produce tholin but it had to enter into an orbit that allowed the Sun to cook the nitrogen, it had to grow to its current size with its compositional elements and it probably needed an atmosphere to develop the global blanket of tholin we see today. All of these parameters had to occur in sequential order and it took many millions of years between these stages.
The Nice model suggest it would have taken 900 million years for Neptune to reach its orbit (3.6 Gyr ago) which then had to spend more time corralling Plutino's into their current 2:3 resonance zone. Robin Canup (Pluto/Charon collision modeler) and I agree that Neptune caused Pluto/Charon to meet but while she thinks Neptune caused them to hit 4Gyr ago, I think Neptune caused them to dance in an eccentric elliptical orbit less than 1Gyr ago (my reasons why).
The Nice model is currently the most favored model by scientists describing how our planets migrated to where they are today.
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It says that the gas giants were closer to the Sun when they formed. Neptune was closer than Uranus but then a 2:1 resonance between Jupiter and Saturn kicked Neptune into a higher orbit. This created the late heavy bombardment after about 0.7-0.8 billion years causing bodies to start flying. Then Neptune spent time migrating outward kicking planetesimals all over the place but mostly inward towards the Sun.
At 0.89 billion years Neptune crosses Uranus' orbit, at this point condition are set up where Neptune can begin to coral bodies into the 2:3 resonance zone which is where Plutino's currently reside. |
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The Nice model is represented in this video. Stop the video around 30 seconds where the Neptune/Uranus transition takes place to see it is marked as occurring around 0.88 Gyr. By adjusting parameters carefully, the Nice model can reach 2:1 resonance between Jupiter and Saturn at the time of the Late Heavy Bombardment, about 800 Myr after the formation of the Solar system.
This is one reason I don't think the small moons orbiting Pluto are 4Gyr old. If the solar system is 4.5 billion years old then 3.6-3.5Gyr ago Neptune potentially just began to coral Plutino's into their zone. The conditions didn't exist until after Neptune got into its current orbit which occurred well after 4Gyr ago closer to 3.5Gyr ago. Then it had to cluster objects into their resonant rates of rotation. This would have taken more time. The spaces between these objects is vast so I'm comfortable saying it took at least 3.5 billion years for Neptune to set up the conditions which caused Pluto/Charon to dance not impact. In other words, Pluto/Charon didn't even meet until around one billion years ago.
This puts us back to the zit.
Using a scenario that allows Neptune to migrate outward pushing Pluto/Charon into a cluster zone allowing them to impact other small objects but grow large while getting into their eccentric orbits then come into close proximity, dance, build up internal pressure then experience an impact that set off a cascading set of events launching shards from Charon into orbit and into Pluto creating large angular disruptions on Pluto facing Charon, sending P waves through Pluto kicking off chunks at the south of SP launching Nix into low orbit and a tholin covered tiny bit that orbited for many tens or hundreds of thousands of years then impact Nix, this follows a consistent train of thought with a series of explanations that line up with observations and time frames making this more acceptable to me than the one that is currently found in the mainstream description. Page 56 explains all this in detail.
Pluto had to form and grow over a long period of time it had to get pushed by Neptune into an eccentric orbit around the sun such that it could develop tholin. Both Pluto and Charon were formed separately being impacted by objects growing ever larger until finally they came to meet. They had to travel collectively closer and farther away from the sun for the tholin to develop on Pluto. Then multiple pieces had to get knocked off Pluto into a low orbit such that two would survive and one covered in tholin would hit Nix creating the zit.
This is one reason I don't think the small moons orbiting Pluto are 4Gyr old. If the solar system is 4.5 billion years old then 3.6-3.5Gyr ago Neptune potentially just began to coral Plutino's into their zone. The conditions didn't exist until after Neptune got into its current orbit which occurred well after 4Gyr ago closer to 3.5Gyr ago. Then it had to cluster objects into their resonant rates of rotation. This would have taken more time. The spaces between these objects is vast so I'm comfortable saying it took at least 3.5 billion years for Neptune to set up the conditions which caused Pluto/Charon to dance not impact. In other words, Pluto/Charon didn't even meet until around one billion years ago.
This puts us back to the zit.
Using a scenario that allows Neptune to migrate outward pushing Pluto/Charon into a cluster zone allowing them to impact other small objects but grow large while getting into their eccentric orbits then come into close proximity, dance, build up internal pressure then experience an impact that set off a cascading set of events launching shards from Charon into orbit and into Pluto creating large angular disruptions on Pluto facing Charon, sending P waves through Pluto kicking off chunks at the south of SP launching Nix into low orbit and a tholin covered tiny bit that orbited for many tens or hundreds of thousands of years then impact Nix, this follows a consistent train of thought with a series of explanations that line up with observations and time frames making this more acceptable to me than the one that is currently found in the mainstream description. Page 56 explains all this in detail.
Pluto had to form and grow over a long period of time it had to get pushed by Neptune into an eccentric orbit around the sun such that it could develop tholin. Both Pluto and Charon were formed separately being impacted by objects growing ever larger until finally they came to meet. They had to travel collectively closer and farther away from the sun for the tholin to develop on Pluto. Then multiple pieces had to get knocked off Pluto into a low orbit such that two would survive and one covered in tholin would hit Nix creating the zit.
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Let me turn this question around, how did Nix get that zit 4Gyr ago. Pluto didn't have time to grow to its current size because objects further out from the Sun are separated further from each other and it didn't have time to develop tholin. How do you get a tiny tholin covered object orbiting Pluto/Charon along with other fully developed ("accreted") from a theoretical impact scenario creating moons, and all this was supposed to have occurred in the first 500 million years then sit idle just waiting around with nothing else happening for 4 billion years.
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Perhaps this is why there is such a deafening silence on this zit issue.
The zit impact demands time for it's scenario to play out, much more time than 500 million years.
Yet there it is starring us in the face like a bad case of acne.
Following is an excerpt from a recent report released by
Matija Ćuk, Luke Dones, David Nesvorný
Called "Dynamical Evidence for a Late Formation of Saturn's Moons"
This paper suggest the inner moons of Saturn are only 100 million years old
Quote from the paper
We find that the past Tethys-Dione 3:2 orbital resonance predicted in standard models likely did not occur, implying that the system is less evolved than previously thought. On the other hand, the orbital inclinations of Tethys, Dione and Rhea suggest that the system did cross the Dione-Rhea 5:3 resonance, which is closely followed by a Tethys-Dione secular resonance.
The zit impact demands time for it's scenario to play out, much more time than 500 million years.
Yet there it is starring us in the face like a bad case of acne.
Following is an excerpt from a recent report released by
Matija Ćuk, Luke Dones, David Nesvorný
Called "Dynamical Evidence for a Late Formation of Saturn's Moons"
This paper suggest the inner moons of Saturn are only 100 million years old
Quote from the paper
We find that the past Tethys-Dione 3:2 orbital resonance predicted in standard models likely did not occur, implying that the system is less evolved than previously thought. On the other hand, the orbital inclinations of Tethys, Dione and Rhea suggest that the system did cross the Dione-Rhea 5:3 resonance, which is closely followed by a Tethys-Dione secular resonance.
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A clear implication is that either the moons are significantly younger than the planet, or that their tidal evolution must be extremely slow (Q > 80, 000).
As an extremely slow-evolving system is incompatible with intense tidal heating of Enceladus, we conclude that the moons interior to Titan are not primordial, and we present a plausible scenario for the system’s recent formation. We propose that the mid-sized moons re-accreted from a disk about 100 Myr ago, during which time Titan acquired its significant orbital eccentricity. |
The above shows how readily a model can change and how potentially short a time frame moon's could form into relatively circular stable orbits. Prior to this report it was assumed Saturn's moons were 4 billion years old.
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The zit (required a second tholin covered object),
The different albedo's (not similar = not accreted), Nix's similarity to Pluto ice (not from Charon). Hydra's similarity to Charon's ice (not from Pluto). The compositions (different not from accretion disk), The time frame (Neptune took 1 Gyr to get in orbit), Erratic axial spins (possible recent ejection, maybe not), The orbital distance (Nix close, Hydra far), |
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All the above suggests these moons did not pop into existence 4 billion years ago rather they came from an event much much more recent.
I'm going to go with a friend's estimation on the possible early stage development of this Pluto system and call it 0.7 Gyr ago.
700 million years ago seems like a reasonable amount of time for Charon and Pluto to perform their energy producing elliptical dance followed by an impact at Mordor which lead to all the other domino effects which created Nix's zit. I'm suggesting that less than 200Myr ago Mordor impacted Charon creating the moons, Styx, Nix, Kerberos and Hydra.
Perhaps the more important question is,
When'd Zit happen, seeing as how
What'z-it is, is easily answered since anyone can see zit's an impact but
When zit happened is a little more tricky but I'm going to say within the last 200 million years.
Where zit came from is the pit at Norgay Montes,
How zit happened was due to an elliptical orbital dance creating heat energy within the last 0.7 Gyr.
Why zit happened was because Neptune drove an object like Jr1 into Charon at Mordor launching shards at Pluto.
How bout
That-zit, or
That'z-it.
I'm going to go with a friend's estimation on the possible early stage development of this Pluto system and call it 0.7 Gyr ago.
700 million years ago seems like a reasonable amount of time for Charon and Pluto to perform their energy producing elliptical dance followed by an impact at Mordor which lead to all the other domino effects which created Nix's zit. I'm suggesting that less than 200Myr ago Mordor impacted Charon creating the moons, Styx, Nix, Kerberos and Hydra.
Perhaps the more important question is,
When'd Zit happen, seeing as how
What'z-it is, is easily answered since anyone can see zit's an impact but
When zit happened is a little more tricky but I'm going to say within the last 200 million years.
Where zit came from is the pit at Norgay Montes,
How zit happened was due to an elliptical orbital dance creating heat energy within the last 0.7 Gyr.
Why zit happened was because Neptune drove an object like Jr1 into Charon at Mordor launching shards at Pluto.
How bout
That-zit, or
That'z-it.
